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Big Brother – Ben’s Flipping Out, Michael Is Snuggling Estelle And Also The Intruders!

There were three major plotlines in last night’s episode, the intruders, Benjamin’s meltdown, and Michael snuggling up with Estelle.

Firstly the intruders were amusing with the housemates having to ignore them, particularly the Michael lookalike, however I did notice that the three guy intruders were not lookers and the girl was. Unfair Big Brother.

Now to more important matters.

Was Michael snuggling up with Estelle libido, loneliness or strategy? Or all of the above?

All episode he was whining that it was the Layla and Sam show and they were only bit players did he think a romance would make him get more screen time. Michael appears at the moment to be trying to second guess everything as he clearly wants to win.

He said there was a shift in power in the house from their group to the Sam, Layla, and Estelle group. Was it a power within or was it because he thinks that the viewers prefer this group? Michael thinks Estelle is popular because she does not bitch and this might look good on the outside.

He also stated “When I am comfortable with other people winning it does not hurt anymore”. Everyone is there to win, except perhaps for Zoe who does appear to not be playing the game as much. Also I think she is one of the minority of the house who is not in there with a huge agenda.

Or is Michael just the nerdy guy from school who finally is having a snuggle with the hot chick aka Estelle someone who would not normally look twice at him. For someone he allegedly hates, in the closing scenes he sure looked like he was trying to make it a more than platonic cuddle with the head caressing.

Also what was Estelle’s agenda? To prove the guy she heard say everyone in the house did not like her was now wanting to mack on with her? Were the other girls right does she likes male attention? If the snuggling continues she might get a backlash against her, because they might think she is cutting Zoe’s grass.

Though Zoe said herself her “love” for Michael is more about fluffing feathers and to keep herself amused in the house.

Someone who is very much at risk of getting a backlash against him was Benjamin. He is crumbling. Is Michael sensing his weakness and trying to make him more vulnerable with his constantly playing mind games? Stacey certainly thinks so and gave him a talking to.  They all know that last week was the last time they were nominating so they will either all be up or external factors will be selecting who is up for nominations next week so maybe their alliances are now not as important.

Benjamin needs to stop the pity party and pull himself together. He thinks it is all very much unfair not seeing that what is occurring to him is what happened to others previously. He also does not think his remarks about other people were that big a deal, but then was upset that other people may be talking about him!

Maybe he needs to give himself a talking to like he has done to Angie and the other housemates so many times when they were nominated. Sure it can’t be nice to be the housemate with highest amount of points but really it is a game and these things happen and there was not a lot of compassion shown to others that were in the same situation.

Some of his most entertaining lines last night were “I thought I had tried to be a good person to all of you”, and “I spent a lot time being strong for other people and have a lot of energy to the end to be strong for myself”.

He spent a lot of time ensuring he was not nominated by telling others what others were saying about them. This is fine as it is strategy and Benjamin and Michael are playing strong strategic games however a few people have cottoned on.

However it is not real bright or mature now Ben is refusing to speak to Sam and Layla in the house because he thinks they avoided nomination.

What the Michael/Ben/Stacey clique don’t realise is the Zoe allegedly one of theirs gave her four points to Stacey so the groups are not as solid as they think.

Finally I did notice Sam mentioned the prize money to Layla, I still think if she wins he is going to want to try and tell her what to do with it.

By the way Stacey is certainly safe this week if the Estelle and Ben show continues.

What did you think of Ben’s behaviour – justified or petulance? Michael snuggling Estelle is it strategy or loneliness?



1 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 9:56 am }

Apologies who read this, early on as I pressed publish before I subbed it and it was riddled with errors, and yes there are probably a few more in there.

2 Bolders { 10.24.12 at 9:58 am }

I only saw the last 15 minutes and am in a state of post crackmatic shock! What diabolical shenanigans was taking place in the crusty musty but lusty bed last night?
I now believe in Stockholm Syndrome.

3 Nathan { 10.24.12 at 10:15 am }

the pool cleaner guy was good looking i guess….. 😉

4 planb { 10.24.12 at 10:15 am }

RR – I didn’t notice any, and I suffer from nitpicking bully syndrome, allegedly.

“Michael snuggling Estelle is it strategy or loneliness?”

It was Estelle’s idea, which I find weirder.

Also, Michael’s prior girlfriend of seven years is way more attractive than Estelle – saw a heap of photos on BBB.

5 Nathan { 10.24.12 at 10:19 am }

starting to feel that zoe could be the dark horse in all this…..wouldnt be suprised if she sneaks thru and wins the comp.

6 Tuffii { 10.24.12 at 10:27 am }

Knowing Michael it’ll be strategy. He is one of the house’s biggest game players and with his genius capabilities he will try to second guess everything to the end. I seriously hope Estelle does not go there. If she does she will regret it when she gets eliminated for cutting grass and then see’s what Michael has been saying about her behind her back every minute of the day. Her best friend is on to Michael so if Estelle was to get eliminated I would say she will be filled in very fast about what has been going on behind her back.

Ben is a very good example of what goes around come’s around. He has spent the whole series manipulating and now it’s all falling down around him and he”s starting to panic. When there’s less people in the house, it becomes more obvious to everyone what is going on. Its highly enjoyable watching Ben squirm as he deserves it!

I will never watch BB again if Michael, Stacey or Ben win. Layla for the win or Estelle but I have a feeling her time is coming to an end. I really hope someone deserving wins as the cool group are nothing but a mature aged group of bullies and they should not be rewarded for it. Entertaining to watch but not deserving of a quarter of a mill!

7 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 10:41 am }

Watching Ben last night is like the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Sylvester the cat is on the stilts, trying to get to the Tweety Bird and the pack of bulldogs have got saws , hacking away as the stilts get progressively shorter.. You’re going down, pal. Ben’s meltdown was top entertainment, especially his being kicked into next week by “The Real Deal”

I don’t know what to make of Crackstellegate, but in the words of the late Ronnie James Dio-

“Sleep with the Devil and then you must pay” (Gates of Babylon)

It’s gold for the producers, whatever happens.

8 Mahlia { 10.24.12 at 10:41 am }

Michael is ALL strategy and you can bet that is what the Estelle thing is about. There’s NO WAY he wants to cuddle her. He has not been able to stand her for the entire 70+ days.
It’s not a coincidence that as soon as he talks about the shift in power that he is spooning Estelle.

What would really be nice would be for Estelle to tell him to bugger off – but she’s probably as interested in alliances too.

Ben is slowing losing his mind. And while he’s doing it he’s making Stacey look very together and not the slightest bit fake.

9 The Oracle { 10.24.12 at 11:00 am }

Yes..totally all strategy..both groups want Ben down and out!
Not one bit in my opinion of loneliness etc etc. ..all strategy.
Michael is cutting Ben loose as he looks on him now as a liability..Stacey’s joining in on the flip after having told Michael not to let Ben “get into his head”
Estelle doesn’t like Ben so it’s in her interest to isolate him hence the hookup with Michael with Stacey trailing behind.
Interesting to see what’s going to happen to Zoe..and what Layla and Sam will think of the “new alliances”
Will we see an even further splitting of the house?..It’s all very volatile at the mo.

10 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 11:19 am }

Bolders – LOL re: Stockholm Syndrome.

Nathan – the pool guy had a mullet….

Plan B – Off to BBB to check her out. I just notice one of the things Michael said las night being called the ginger ninja at school because he was pudgy and had ginger hair. Also at another point he said he had acne, so thought he might lack confidence in guys. BTW what didn’t you notice?

Nathan – maybe the only thing that my go against her is the voting to save issue so your fans have to vote. If it was the opposite she would win for sure. I am thinking it will be Layla, Stacey or Zoe.

INteresting how editing is a factor, I think I voted to save Ben in the second or so week, now I am not. However have not voted since then. May do in the final weeks.

Tuffi – yep last night’s ep was a cracker.

BBD – Crackstellegate – love it.

Mahalia – yeah agree, would be interesting to know Estelle’s motives.

The Oracle – with only 7 people in the house they are creating plenty of drama. It should be an interesting week particularly if Ben can’t pull himself together.

11 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 11:24 am }

Somehow, I don’t think pulling himself will get Ben together, RR.

12 planb { 10.24.12 at 11:49 am }

RR – the errors referred to in post 1.

13 Stacey { 10.24.12 at 11:50 am }

Haha ^

14 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 11:57 am }

Just read on Twitter that Estelle and Michael were spooning again last night!

15 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 11:58 am }

BBD – he is probably dying to.

16 Mahlia { 10.24.12 at 12:00 pm }

Blah, I feel sick just thinking about those two together.

I wonder what Josh would say about Michael getting with Estelle??

17 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 12:01 pm }

It’s a Fatal Acracktion.

RR, I remember when Travis actually did that on BB a few years ago- while he was tied by a short length of rope (at BB’s decree) to another unfortunate housemate. Now only a real wanker would do something like that.

18 Isabel { 10.24.12 at 12:13 pm }

Who was the ninja who skulled his beer in one go! I loved the look in his eyes!

Oh Estelle – I’ll vote to save you just this once, but not if you take up with that filthy Michael – who was lovingly stroking your hair as you slept. Poor Ben was unable to sleep, poor, poor Ben!

They are all so two faced – they hate someone and nom them, then shout over the fence ‘we love you, we love you’ ….

Michael is disgusting – dear God, don’t let him win …

19 ashley { 10.24.12 at 12:19 pm }

Ben had the worst edit, Stacey was zzzz and Estelle was both bad and good.

I’m not surprised by the Michael/Estelle situation. They always seem to be doing something together or sitting next to each other when I read the live updates. He also told Angie that he had a small crush on Estelle last week. I think Michael is genuinely attracted to Estelle but I think Estelle is just overly affectionate. She asked Angie to spoon her in the first week and was all over Ava. She’s also cozied up with Bradley. I think its just her nature.

20 Bailey { 10.24.12 at 12:25 pm }

I’ll be annoyed if Zoe fans want Estelle out over this. She isn’t cutting anyone’s grass, Michael has made it clear he’s not interested and it’s Zoe’s fault for not backing off.. It makes me cringe

I think Ben must have narcissism issues or something, it’s like someone else on this blog said a few days ago that his mum thinks the sun shines out of his arse.. Sometimes getting no realistic feedback as a child can make it difficult to be anything but number 1 in your adult life. The slightest criticism and he’s a sad little mess. He can’t see the problem with how he’s treated EVERYONE, yet it happens to him and its the end of the world. What kind of person can’t make that connection in their head?

21 Jane { 10.24.12 at 12:27 pm }

Imagine growing up with Ben: “Not fair. She got more ice-cream than I did.” “Miss, how come they got to go to lunch?” “His piece of chocolate is bigger than mine”. Followed by the sulky resentment. Oh dear! And he still does it.

22 Den { 10.24.12 at 12:32 pm }

Estelle put it out to Michael about spooning. So if it wasn’t for her then this might not have happened. I would like to believe that Estelle has done this as a conscious act to play Ben or as The Oracle said to “isolate” him. Pay back can be a bitch Ben! I see all of them slowly steeping away from the car crash that Ben is becoming.

As for Michael, he is a big game player so he knows that he needs to extricate himself from the ‘cool’ people who are now the ‘losers’. Zoe, again it appears, will come out of this looking good.

I reckon the beer sculling Ninja was from the past series. Even though I could only see his eyes there was one in particular that used to ham it up on that Friday night show.

23 Bailey { 10.24.12 at 12:33 pm }

It must be hard being him, I’ll give him that. Besides maybe Michael no one in the house is breaking a sweat over anything. He needs to chill and have fun. Other people seem to be his main focus.

24 Jane { 10.24.12 at 12:37 pm }

Michael is definitely the power player/the major manipulator in the spooning move. SInce Estelle has had to spend most of her BB time not being allowed friends, of course she’ll be a sucker for a change in behaviour. She was ‘blamed’ for Ava’s friendship and the nasties tried to sabotage that. Now she’s being accused because Sam and Layla got fed up with the cattiness and openned up to her. I thinks it’s naive of her to trust Michael. But this is a girl who has spent weeeeks being ostracised and things seem to be looking up for her. Beware Estelle!!!!!! Maybe Sam or Layla might warn her. Let’s hope. Sam seems genuine. I like that but Estelle needs to win because viewers need the satisfaction of seeing the bullies get a wake up call and not the prize.

25 Mia { 10.24.12 at 12:45 pm }

I am LOVING seeing Michael and Ben scrambling to stay afloat in the power shift, I really hope Stacey or Ben goes this Sunday. How freaked out would that make Michael!? I had no intention of voting this season, but I’ve sent a few save SMS’s Estelle’s way today.
I’m pretty ‘meh’ about Layla, Sam and Estelle, but I’m eager to see one of them win now, just to piss off the self appointed ‘superior group’.

26 Suziekue { 10.24.12 at 1:07 pm }

Spooning is Estelle’s version of turning the other cheek. Umm literally… Estelle, given her dislike of the ongoing bitchiness, is going out of her way to be nice and to be seen to be nice to Crackajack whom she knows full well has been incredibly bitchy to her all along.

27 Jane { 10.24.12 at 1:11 pm }

New song: Ben Sooky-La La. Ben, Ben Sooky-La La.

28 Darryl { 10.24.12 at 1:24 pm }

Oh and Estelle in the “Nice Corner” with the Horse magazines. WTF the horse magazines

29 Calliegirl { 10.24.12 at 2:12 pm }

A great post RR – you captured everything. What a great episode. Spot on BDD saying that the producers at 9 would be loving the change in the order of things. Ben – it’s time to build a bridge. I actually didn’t mind Stacey last night.

30 feather { 10.24.12 at 2:20 pm }
31 A.P { 10.24.12 at 2:40 pm }

I do feel a bit sorry for Ben but he’s brought it on himself. he needs to listen to the advice he gave to others who were nominated and not take it to heart. At least he knows how they felt now.
I’m a bit worried about the Michael/Estelle thing and I hope it doesn’t cause Estelle to lose so close to the end.If only Zoe were up for eviction she would go. I definitely don’t want her to win as she’s showed her allegiance to the cool group and has been just as bad they are.
Stacey was the most human last night than I’ve ever seen her, maybe it was a glimpse of the real Stacey.
Love the unwelcome guests coming in and can’t wait to see Reggie and Paul in particular. Paul should have won BB4, not Trevor who flew under the radar the whole time.

32 sand { 10.24.12 at 2:54 pm }

i agree with you calliegirl. I also didn’t mind stacy last night. Saw a different side of her which I liked.

At this point, don’t really like anyone to win except for delilah…..

33 A.P { 10.24.12 at 3:06 pm }

Hope Estelle hasn’t ruined her chances of winning the show with this Michael thing going on, I will have to give her a few more votes I think.
Stacey did seem the most human last night than I’ve ever seen her, maybe it was a glimpse of the real Stacey?
I don’t want Zoe to continue flying under the radar to win this thing, she was part of the cool group as just as nasty as them.
Ben needs to take the advice that hes dished out to plenty of the others who were nominated. Now he knows how they felt!
Love the unwelcome guests and can’t wait to see Reggie and Paul in particular.
In BB4, Trevor flew under the radar all the time, the big joker in the house and went on to win ( much like Stacey ), unlike Paul who was a great player and should have won.
Reggie was the best winner ever!

34 Nathan { 10.24.12 at 3:17 pm }

one second stacey is calling benjamin a drainer – next she’s telling benjamin to ignore michael ,as he overthinks everything.
when the chips are down – she isnt very loyal i dont reckon.
and all that great advice benjamin has offered the housemates thru out the series – how empty does it all seem now.
everyone can see that he never really wanted to help them – he just wanted to get on their good side…
but behind their backs he was saying all kinds of bad things about
and layla – it doesnt take her long to start gossiping about estelle to stacey and zoe….
ahh there all evil!!!!
brain dead dave .. another dio(rainbow rising) quote :
When the siren calls you go, yeah
To run with the wolf
Run with the wolf!!!
michael better watch out!! :p

35 Bolders { 10.24.12 at 3:26 pm }

The Benster as the oldest in the group, is acting like a knob.

Okay for other people to get nominated with 16 points every week and the Benster to skip through the day counselling one nominee after another but when the tables are turned you could see that he is barely able to breathe with loathing of Layla and Sam because they weren’t nominated the fist time in 2 weeks.

It’s turdish behaviour (I just invented that word – whadya think?).

Poor Dr Ben. Using some of the Benesims we’ve heard form you in the past my reocmmendation to you would be:

Ben you need to see yourself as others see you and take into consideration that you should just be yourself* and try and enjoy this journey because I see for you a great person on the outside who will love you for who you are regardless of the awful awful things you did and said but while I love you to death you need to realise that you are not being kind to yourself and that you should really focus on enjoying the rest of the time you have here.

*[Okay I’ver never understood this modern day platitude of just be yourself, because if someone is a serial killer and prone to random murders, aren’t they also just being themselves? My point is, that if you are a sociopath, maybe being yourself isnt so healthy for everyone else and perhaps not a goal that should be applauded or even recommended.

My musings for the day.

Plus, still not over Estelle and her cracktastic new bed partner.

It both sucks and blows.

36 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 3:35 pm }

Bolders – LOL

37 The Oracle { 10.24.12 at 3:44 pm }

Yep Michael’s really “cracking” on to Estelle..
Must put “turdish” in my dictionary Bolders along side the Julia inspired elaborated meaning of “misogynist” :)

38 Bolders { 10.24.12 at 4:09 pm }

Yes Oracle, my understanding was that if you are not one who is in love with bottle red hair you are a misogynist, because wimmin are more likely to choose to be that colour than men.

That just about makes as much sense as her announcements on the issue.

39 Sandy { 10.24.12 at 4:19 pm }

Bolders – turdish is an awesome word, may i use it in the future if the need ever arises.? I have used turdful before

40 planb { 10.24.12 at 4:19 pm }

Just wondering, are many of the regulars here Alan Jones’ fans? It would explain a lot.

41 Calliegirl { 10.24.12 at 4:28 pm }

Bolders – love your new turdish word. Very perceptive post you have made.

42 Bolders { 10.24.12 at 4:29 pm }

Planb neither a fan nor an enemy. Just FYI.

Sandy go ahead – I find many such opportunities in my day as well :)

43 Calliegirl { 10.24.12 at 4:29 pm }

Planb – what is God’s name does Alan Jones have to do with anything on this blog???

44 Mahlia { 10.24.12 at 4:30 pm }

Oh Bolders you SOOOO nailed the Ben counselling session.

45 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 4:59 pm }

I can’t seem to see what Alan Jones has to do with this either…. except that he’s a gay dickhead like Ben who’s screwed up recently over what he’s said.

Blow it out your quoit, nit-picker ,planb. Not happy unless you’re unhappy.

Love the Rainbow quote , Nathan.

46 Carole { 10.24.12 at 5:26 pm }

I loved the intruders, the house mates reaction to them, trying to ignore them was hilarious. And the Michael double, he almost made Michael look skinny. And the weight lifter guy, screaming and throwing things in the pool. So funny. Can’t wait for tonight when former house mates go in. It’s great seeing Ben get his come uppence and falling apart, now he knows how the others felt getting nominated all the time. He never had any sympathy for them. So sucked in Ben!!!!!! That’s a good point Bolders about being yourself. I hadn’t thought about it like that, serial killers are just being themselves.

47 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 5:48 pm }

Yeah, who are we to judge the serial killers “journey”?

48 Georgie { 10.24.12 at 6:06 pm }

Aren’t you a regular planb? You seem to have more in common with Alan Jones than the rest of us because you both go out of your way to antagonise people. The common garden variety shit stirrer and when you didn’t get the desired response from #4, you thought you’d try a bit harder.

Maybe this is just another Betty incarnation? If so, put the bottle away – it’s too early, even for you.

49 Anonymous { 10.24.12 at 6:52 pm }

Oh how I long for mature exchanges between adults that are not censored and edited to fit a kiddy time slot. One of the best, most original Big Brothers was the Australian version with Saxon and Ben and Joe , rivalled only by UK Big Brother 10. Now that was totally compelling. I did enjoy last night’s BB as the daggers were coming out.

50 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 7:42 pm }

Come on everyone no sledging each other. The comments here today have been great.

51 Oma { 10.24.12 at 7:57 pm }

HORNY FREAK ESTELLE IS MAKING MICHAEL SICK. PLEASE EVERYONE LET’S GET RID OF HER ONCE AND FOR ALL. If I see her miserable, sallow pouty face one more week I will throw up.

52 James { 10.24.12 at 7:59 pm }

A.P. there must be something wrong with you. Why do you love Estelle so much? Oh yeah because you’re a lemming and it’s the thing at the moment. Sorry honey she hasn’t got a chance, but go ahead and waste your money. Stacey and Ben all the way.

53 Sally { 10.24.12 at 8:27 pm }

Yeah totally agree. Down with Estelle the psycho who no-one in the house liked except her lover Ryan and Ava.

54 James { 10.24.12 at 8:31 pm }

Oh and RR it was Estelle wanting to “spoon”” Mike – she actually asked him, NOT the other way around.

55 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 8:43 pm }

James – everyone sees the people in the show differently and people will have different opinions.

Everyone If someone likes someone you don’t or says some you perceive to be stupid or insulting please ignore. This is looking like it is going to be a cracker last two weeks of Big Brother and I want this to be a fun place to comment.

56 Sally { 10.24.12 at 8:46 pm }

I just can’t WAIT to see Estelle’s face when she finally gets kicked out on Sunday – will be the best moment of the show. She thinks everyone loves her outside of the house – COUGH VOMIT. Not this time sucker!

57 Silly Milly { 10.24.12 at 9:06 pm }

Ben reminds me of an over excited, over anxious puppy. He piddles himself with glee when he enters the nomination chamber and then piddles himself again when he ends up nominated.

58 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 9:14 pm }

Speaking of puppies, who let the dogs out?

59 ExEssex { 10.24.12 at 9:32 pm }

I thought Micheal had a girlfriend?? I wonder how she feels all about this?

60 Lisa { 10.24.12 at 9:40 pm }

Has Estelle really never bitched?

61 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 9:49 pm }

Well, it’s hard to know with total certainty, Lisa. It sure got up Stacey’s nose…but then you could drive a truck up her nose.

More mindless gurning for the cameras from Stacey. She’d make a big deal, pull plastic faces and make a song and dance about writing out a shopping list. Total attention seeking fake.

62 Bolders { 10.24.12 at 9:58 pm }

Possibly not a good move by Estelle in groping Micrackl.

Reminds me of Vesna and how popular she was until she started following one of those Logan twins with her tongue hanging out of her mouth.

Audience voted her out quick smart – never a good idea to be sexually aggressive onTV especially when it’s not appreciated.

63 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 10:03 pm }

He wouldn’t have complained if it was Josh that groped him.

Silky skills by Crackzilla lying to Zoe about how the spooning came to pass.

64 A.P { 10.24.12 at 10:05 pm }

James, there’s nothing wrong with me thanks and I’m not a lemming. I form my own opinions and over the weeks I have seen what a nice person Estelle is and will vote accordingly.
Have a nice day James honey!

65 Nathan { 10.24.12 at 10:07 pm }

man its funny how people are hanging shit on estelle for raping michael or whatever they think she did to the poor ginger… hahaha
but what kind of low-life moron says –
“she is the fakest human I have ever met in my entire life”, “By far the most difficult person to talk to – it’s like talking to a four-year-old” – and then jumps in bed with that person??????????????
he instigated all this when he gave estelle a long sensual foot rub the other day – thats why she was comfortable enough to go spooning with him.
if he is so innocent and cant turn girls advances down…why the hell did he turn Zoe down???
because he’s got a hard on for estelle and always has…..and now he can see she is on the winning team…..
he is so fake and see thru.

66 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 10:10 pm }

I certainly won’t be wasting my money voting to save Estelle. I’ll be flat out like a lizard stealing mobile phones and letting some other sucker cough up for it.

67 planb { 10.24.12 at 10:20 pm }

re the Alan Jones comments, I was referrring to the extra misogyny quotient today.

re my post no4, “the desired result” was a bit of a laugh at my own expense. But don’t worry, Georgie, your many posts targeting me HAVE really hurt and upset me. Feast on that. What an odd past-time.

RR – as my experiences with BDD lately, and his dear friend, Georgie, who seems to only post these days to put the boot into me have become so distressing, I would like to lodge a formal complaint.

I know many many people here love BDDs ‘humour’, but a lot of us, especially the women, like me, find it often very unpleasant. There have been a few posts lately about this. I wanted to add my support to these women, but felt afraid to.

Equally, there are a surprising number of women who just adore the belligerent misogyny BDD dishes out, and find him hilarious. Go figure. Many of them are women of fairly advanced age, who one would think might know better.

I have assumed we are all a fairly mixed bunch here, but it suddenly struck me that if Alan Jones was considered all right by most posters, that might explain why.

I know you don’t take sides, but I wanted to say something about this. You have said in the past many posters like BDDs humour, and clearly they do. You might consider, however, how many nice, intelligent people are not willing or no longer willing to post, when they are aware they will cop abuse and ostracising from the dominant poster here, if they do.

68 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 10:32 pm }

“Many of them are women of fairly advanced age”

Now exactly who is being misogynist, not to mention ageist here?

Where have people said Alan Jones is alright? I’ve certainly bagged him at every opportunity and it’s there for anyone to read.

69 Ian { 10.24.12 at 10:37 pm }

Interesting episode tonight. It’s nice to see Stacey put forth an opinion, even if it may backfire. I can see how hearing Estelle wander around repeating the notion that she doesn’t bitch behind other people’s backs would put others on edge – it’s a passive/aggressive thing to say. That said, I do think she probably has a good heart, as do most of them (bar Sam). The dynamics of living in a confined space with such different people would indeed be very confronting.

I think the furor over Estelle cuddling up to Michael is overblown, and this is coming from someone who is hoping Estelle leaves on Sunday. She didn’t kiss him or make any romantic gestures as far as I’m aware.

70 Ian { 10.24.12 at 10:41 pm }

I’ll stand up and say that BDD seems to crack his whip in everyone’s direction – not just females. I don’t think he is a misogynist by any means. Sadly, what we see on this show are not people, but characters, and I think BDD’s ire is directed at the characters as opposed to the people themselves. I could be wrong about this, but I don’t get the feeling he is judging the housemates as people.

I do not like it when he attacks posters for having a different opinion, though, especially those who choose to remain anonymous. That is pointless and counterproductive in a public forum.

71 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 10:44 pm }

Instead of a rant, I’d like to see some examples of the “extra misogynist quotient” today, — particularly from yours truly.

I’ve been equally critical of males, females ,gay straight, fat, thin etc,etc.

72 Sally { 10.24.12 at 11:08 pm }

Estelle’s life philosophy: Clean livin’ and hard rootin’.

73 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 11:08 pm }

Plan B – Thanks for your comment and feedback.

Any direct personal attacks on people as in other personal commenters from anyone will be edited out as it just seems to flare things up between people.

Though I thought AP handled herself well in her exchange with a commenter today.

74 A.P { 10.24.12 at 11:11 pm }

RR, Thank You, I’ve learnt a few lessons along the way!

75 Sally { 10.24.12 at 11:14 pm }

Nice of you to reply to her RR and not anyone else regarding the same thing. I’ve only just come across your blog lately and there’s no way I would ever recommend it to anyone (the only reality TV I am watching is BB anyway) mainly because of the stalking by BDD and his overly-aggressive and personal attacks. I know you probably don’t have many people reading your blog anyway, but you could at least try to be a bit more selective.

76 Stacey { 10.24.12 at 11:22 pm }

Bolders- wasn’t Vesna following Hotdogs around?

77 brain dead dave { 10.24.12 at 11:43 pm }

I wouldn’t recommend you to anyone, Sally. Especially the preaching after you drooled #2, #73 and #92 on this thread~

78 Reality Raver { 10.24.12 at 11:45 pm }

Sally – your comments on the blog have indicated that you quite like a robust debate and was opinionated about what is going on screen on BB and on the blog. As you say you are not a fan.

79 brain dead dave { 10.25.12 at 12:11 am }

That should be comments 72, 73 and 92 that I refer to in comment 77

Before I go, I would like to thank the following “women of advanced age”‘ for their kind words and support of my tireless campaign of misogyny~
A.P .
Culinary Boner
library girl
The Oracle
Joseph Skyrim
Sioux Denim
Janice G
Bruiser Brody
Dr T
Izobel 2
Nurse Ratchett
tech hater

You have all been inspirational.Let me know if I’ve left you out.

Thanks too, to RR for sitting on her hands while I’ve dealt out the misogyny for last three years.

80 brain dead dave { 10.25.12 at 12:23 am }

Also Miss Mars,Stacey, jarrah, Mahlia , Nathan, Bailey

81 brain dead dave { 10.25.12 at 12:30 am }

Baker Boy, Rapunzel, Beau. I don’t want to offend my leaving people out.

There’s a smaller list of those who can kiss my ****

82 HungryHippo { 10.25.12 at 1:30 am }

BDD Im another female fan. I rarely comment but i’m longtime reader and I always enjoy your comments. Keep up the good work.
Also I miss Georgie these days, I hope all is well for her.

83 HungryHippo { 10.25.12 at 1:36 am }

BDD Im another female fan. I rarely comment but i’m a longtime reader and I always enjoy your comments. Keep up the good work.
Also I miss Georgie these days, I hope all is well for her.

84 brain dead dave { 10.25.12 at 1:56 am }

Thank you. I do recall your screen name, HH. Georgie doesn’t watch a lot of Big Brother but is a regular commenter on X Factor.

85 DD { 10.25.12 at 7:02 am }

I would bring George back into the house as an intruder to serve Layla breakfast in bed with Sam….now that would be funny to watch!

86 Georgie { 10.25.12 at 7:11 am }

Hi there HungryHippo, haven’t seen a post from you for a while either. I’m well thank you and hope you are too.

87 Rapunzel { 10.25.12 at 8:52 pm }

Hey whatz goin on? Ive been away and i come back and it seems like everyones saying goodbye. Its not time to go yet people i have enjoyd reading everyones comments well almost everyones. But i must say my fave is BDD. U r intelligent halarious and i feel very insightful. U also . give the best smackdowns and taken some ridiculous heat with real aplomb. I hope i spelt that right. Im still voting Estelle all the way I love the weird horse girl. Xxx:)

88 Jane { 11.02.12 at 2:40 pm }

Nathan@65: yes Michael the helpless victim who lay their motionless while Estelle groped him. Michael wouldn’t go for Zoe because for some reason he thinks he’s too cool and she doesn’t cut it. Actually I think he’s punching above his weight with Estelle. As for his prefering Josh ….. no wonder he despised Ava. I just hope Estelle removes herself from Michael’s mainipulation.. and his groping tentacles. I think she’s being immature but so what.